CjCity- Responds to Math Hoffa & Big Kannon

Cj City responds to Math Hoffa and Big Kannon’s state of Battle rap blogs

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  • TnR Multimedia

    Why don’t ppl mention Syah Boy?

    • Rexchap

      cuz his name “BOY” is what hurts him! “SYAH” don’t help none either! Sounds too soft and weak…even if that’s not the case

  • Rexchap

    THE PROBLEM is that these niggas are LIMITED…they already spoke about what they know and stretched THEIR thinking as far as it can go! They are ONLY of a certain age and they don’t KNOW much…..ANYBODY battling more than twice a year, you already heard the best they can do unless someone else writes for them! You can’t keep going the personal route, then that shows even LESS creativty! That’s why LUX, GOODZ, BiG KANNON stand out…..These niggas are STINGY with their shit, the rest of these niggas are chasing a buck and have become staler than a open bag of chips after 2 days!!!!

    • gwvaio

      Minus Goodz and Kannon. Goodz is just ok. Kannon wants the battles he just can’t get them.

  • God Aweful

    This dude make sense. I blame fans for making excuses for top tier rappers.

  • ChiseEagle

    Big Kannon did have some good points though, when the crowd or Don DeMarco interrupts a rapper when he is spitting, it does ruin his momentum and concentration. Or when people on stage talk during the battle, it takes away from the performer…. Math responded but his recent battles were not “Top Tier” worthy, Sometimes let the rappers put up some money with 3 celebrity judges, like KD or others that follow battle rap judging the battle, then we would get a better product…..

    • Jamal

      you sound stupid bro..THIS IS A BUSINESS..So what the rappers put up the bread and who films it? do you understand that this is content that they are producing..okay so they put up the money for their battles..SMACK films it, puts it up and makes like 10,000 off it..and also keeps building up his brand off that battle..they get paid because they are giving smack the rights to the battle..he gets paid off views..and also the views help the keep building his brand..more subscribers, more views, more visits to his website..you people who think these rappers should do free battles are total idiots..in 5 years these battles that people keep bitching over would be worth so much..yall act like battlers earn royalties for their shit..if smack pays a nigga 10k for a battle..hes paying them that based on previous battles and the name..now if the battle tanks then thats a risk you take..but like loaded lux battle..he got 10k and his battle went viral, so smack made bank off lux and that battle also moved his shit into more mainstream and brought a bigger light to his brand..now if the battle like mook vs soloman happens yes it tanked..but the names got the battle over 1 million views..so even though the battle is ass, he still made bank..this is a business..not a fucking do freebies for smack..in 5 years SMACKs empire will be worth over 10 million easy..so pay the rappers to continue to build your shit up

      • God Aweful

        I hope you get paid from this battle shit. Otherwise, I hate when fans talk business as if they really know the behind the scenes or if any of that matters to the fan. Let the industry figure out how it makes its money. We should only be concerned with the best product for our consumption. Fans are out here counting Smack/battle rappers money and celebrating views while the battles are ass. The whole shit is ass backwards.

        • Jamal

          shut that dumb shit..yes i do this for a living..and niggas get cpm (cost per 1000 views) anywhere between $4- $12 for every 1000 views..so these battles are growing..every battle will continue to get views day in and day out..niggas is making bank..stop talking about free battles..shit is annyoing..smack shouldnt be building an empire off niggas backs.. Mook, Lux, rex, millz, arty, jones etc didnt get paid for any battles in the beginning..those are the battles that started smack..so how is it fair niggas can build an empire off niggas and when niggas ask for shit like 20k, and 40k its a problem? do you understand networth and what this URL movement is worth..people always defend smack..when he is the only star in this shit..fans are fickle, a nigga can have a bad battle and he drops and niggas call him trash…these niggas is putting alot on the line every battle..SMACK puts nothing on the line..hes in front of the camera and builds his brand, whether you do well or not..SMACK is the only star of URL..and will continue to be…MCs like cortez, tech 9, math use to be high up,even mook, now niggas dont care to see them..so know what you talking about..battlers should be paid, based on what impact their making..no one should do any free battlers..this is a capitalistic society.. Money runs this shit..fuck what you think nigga.

        • ChiseEagle

          So you agree with the fans paying $100 to get into a battle to hear a rapper who didn’t even write a 3rd round as long as he gets paid… That’s ass backwards…. One battle ain’t going to hurt a brothers pockets. Summer madness, Iron Solomon was trash, ENess went spazz, only near great battle was Hitman/JJDD…. But you support the business as is…..

        • Jamal

          stop looking at it from a fans perspective. These rappers have to value their craft..i could say the same thing about people who make music..I could say you gonna pay Jay Z 100k to come rap for an hour..its not about the fans when it comes to business..maybe smack should make better contracts that included royalties…but why should someone like Lux do a battle for less than what he want when he know smack gonna bank crazy off it.. Do you know what that lux/calicoe battle did for his brand and the culture..and he already has done free battles for smack..the miles and the mook shit he wasnt paid..and those were two of the most important battles when it comes to his brand…bro i hear what you saying from a fans perspective but at the end of the day a nigga shouldnt sacrifice his craft so you can see.. I remember the beef with Arsonal and beasley..Arsonal was mad cause he felt his battle made way more than what he was paid..(it was the 1st million view joint on url too, i think) What did beasley come on and say..we negotiated the contract before hand..so i owe him no money, he went on to say “if he felt he was worth more, he should of negotiated further” see you cant have it both ways..Lux know when he come back thats a million view battle in less than a week..he wants to be compensated so i dont care..cause at the end of the day when smack makes 20 million off this brand..u think he just gonna come back and hand out bread to all the rappers that helped him get there?

        • ChiseEagle

          Dude, you got me all wrong, I think Lux should get what he is worth. I’m saying that if this is for the love of the culture, do an event where the battlers do some exhibition bouts to show their appreciation to the fans for supporting the culture. Doing shyt for the “community” is the best form of advertising. Smack/URL is not starving, they can afford it…

        • Jamal

          yea but at the end of the day..someone is going to own this content. I would have no issue if these rappers did what you said for the culture..and keep the rights to the footage..but when its going on smack..your giving smack the rights to the footage..which means he owns it for life..its value..he can use it in commercials, sell the rights to who he wants etc…how do i know in 10 years that battling wont be the next MMA worth hundreds of millions of dollars…when smack gets his net worth into 7 and 8 figure amounts..the rappers who help build his shit gonna look at they financial standing and say damn..we really didnt get shit for putting on for the culture..only smack gonna eat off this for real mah nigga..

        • ChiseEagle

          You are absolutely right, but Smack isn’t the only dude with a camera, it doesn’t have to be a venue battle, just something serious to let the fans know as a battler, we hear your complaints and we still do it for the love. I was at SM3, because of Math, we didnt get to see 2 great battlers, JC and Swave, but Daylyt still got his 7 grand….Who was the biggest loser? The fans…..

        • Jamal

          Yeah but at the end of the day what u saying isnt really viable..this is a business now..the reason people do shit on smack is cause the subscribers are high, so once a video drops it gets shared quickly and the views go up fast..a lux battle on any other stage wont get the views as fast..plus you want some money for it..you want to make as much as you can for your craft..they should just wait till a better time..and as..and as far as who is the biggest loser as it goes to the event its not really the fans because content comes and goes..we still gonna end up seeing it…i think who loses are really the battlers..jc, swave, daylyt, john john because this was their chance to be on summer madness..and it hurt their chance to advance their careers. Math fucked up alot of shit..he should be banned for this..he hurt the rest of the battlers left to battle..he hurt the fans who paid for the event, he hurt the culture, he hurt SMACK and he cause a big up roar that could possibly have cost someone their life..good thing nothing escalated to that level..one man shouldnt have that much power…he needs to be banned from battling…no questions about it…this the 2nd time he did it and this time he had no excuses for it..dose hat brim touched him..this time no one did nothing…hes a bitch…he talks through peoples rounds all the time..he just never liked serius jones from day 1 and i think he planned it…beasley said before he swung on jones that he said something in his bars like “yall dont respect i swung on dose, what if i swing on someone jones size” and then thats what happened..math lost everyone respect he should be gone

        • ChiseEagle

          But now, no big venues are going to mess with Smack because of the threat of violence. Them Grape Street dudes was pressing Smack outside the venue concerning Daylyt’s money. Yes, its a business but even pro athletes do free games and exhibitions. And remember there are not too many NYC venues that will cater to large rap crowds. They already lost Webster Hall.

        • Jamal

          no pros dont do free games and exhibitions..most places that ask them to play are generating money with their presence..typically they do it for charity..a percentage of the money goes to charities..and pro athletes already have contracts..so they have money they get..a better comparison would be boxing..no boxer is going to do a boxing match for free..because it takes awhile to prepare for a match and you dont have many fights…which battler wants to write 10 mins of raps etc and do it free…Smack didnt need stage 48..they would of had to upgrade anyway..to do the lux joint..they’ll figure it out..

        • ChiseEagle

          Not true, here in NYC, they play in games for free all the time, Being a summer coach, NBA’ers play for me often, for free so the people who cant afford to go to games can see them in person, for the love….

  • http://www.fivedollarleases.com/ BEST BEATS ONLINE…..PERIOD

    Mc’s need to step it up but the crowds are bias and mess up potentially good battles.

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ JAWZ

    SO TRUE. HOLLOW CAME [email protected] WITH THAT WEAK ASS SHOW HE PUT ON, HE WAS SO WACK, AND HIS FANS DON’T KEEP IT REAL WITH HIM. SO THAT LET’S ME KNOW, HE GOT A WACK ASS FANS BASE.

  • Antony Hall

    The thing with Battle Rap is that we need a caliber level so to speak like either a points system or w/e and we need to establish a straight loser or winner and you need to have levels to this shit, because alot of these guys are letting this shit go to there head because they been there so long i mean they think they are up to this level but they really not.

  • Antony Hall

    Exactly these Mc’s need to bring they A every single time because some of them are really getting sloppy very very sloppy Charlie is one of them, along with a few others

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