Jon Rhynes has a man to man w/ Math Hoffa

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  • Macmar415

    Let me stop you bro, he went from dose hat brim to a fight to daylyt pouring water on him and he did nothing to sucker punching jones for no reason! Best thing you said in here is he needs to gtf outta battle rap!

  • nate

    I expected this to be a “fuck hoffa” vid, but this is really the perfect response to what happened. Grown man shit.
    After the nome 3 backlash from fans and now this? I don’t think math did anything to set the culture back, but he definitely set URL back.

    • myian barnes

      URL set itself back, Math was just the tip of the iceberg. 6 hour delay, a midget, a cookie, Day spazzing on Smack(rightfully so, just handled wrong)….the debacle of SM3 was a huge setback.

      • barondebxl

        What are you talking about? Day spazzing on Smack was a result to zMath punch. Do you really think that the midget and the cookie set URL back? Lmao.

        • myian barnes

          The overall concept wax a failure. SM3 was supposed to focus on BARS….and it won’t be remembered for anything but drama and gimmicks.

    • Spindizzy

      !!!! Suckas do sucka shit, He stole on Jones cause he figured he aint gona do nothing. He whipped up on Mook cause he weak, He hit Dose, cause look at him. Daylyt poured water on Math, he did nothing, Calicoe pressed up on Math he did nothing. All that shit is for show, CB4 shit. Math is a Wanksta why run? You stole the man, then be man enough to take that ass whooping. NO RESPECT FOR PUNK SHIT!!!

  • Crown Heights

    Math why you didn’t sucker punch daylyt? Math you do need to retire from battle rap. You scum Math. Serious Jones doesn’t even look like a threat. You had that shit planned pussy. And don’t be waking up you’re mother at 4 am with you’re bullshit spoil ass nigga. Hate to see what you do if you actually killed someone smh. Fucking momma’s boy don’t wanna hear you say Brooklyn again..

    • myian barnes

      Spoiled his right. After watching his blog, Math doesn’t come off as the tough street bully. He seemed like a spoiled, emotional, brat, who prolly has been bullied himself. He doesn’t seem like what he portays when he rhymes….it’s more like he’s an opportunistic punk, taking advantage of situations. Btw, Dose didn’t hit him with the brim, Math hit himself, Dose was standing still…

      • Tru

        Nigga maybe he’s trying to make a fucking change. Maybe he’s tired of people judging him and trying him all the fucking time. Maybe he just wants some fucking acceptance. You forget that Math is in fact from the streets and no matter how much you change you’re always going to have that edge. I don’t think Hoffa has bars like that, but I can tell that he cares for the culture and wants to see it grow and he shouldn’t be penalized for a mistake.

        • Macmar415

          Negative Tru. Regardless if he’s trying to change there comes a point in every persons life where you need to be held accountable for your own actions. This isn’t the first time he punched someone and shut down a venue so let’s not play the “It was just a mistake” card.

  • K9 aka 40BoY

    actions like that is y niccas get shot the fuck up… he gon have to deal with that tho street wise most def

  • cali

    Fuck. utta here… maybe smack should implement a no acting retarded while other niggas is rapping rule.. actions have consequences, he thought that stage n that contract would save him from an animal.. it didnt.

    Every interview n blog serius says hes from the street n he dont know these niggas kuz they jus rappers. What parta the game is this, where u taunt niggas because u know or think u know that they cant get at u…. u know the nigga actin brave after u already in handcuffs..same shit

    Hes destroying the culture? Smack will be back at it in a couple months n niggas will have bars about it……

    West West point of view

  • Florida Boy

    Now this is certified real talk

  • FuckYaWeirdos

    You bitch ass niggas are agreeing that Math should retire when you have niggas like Daylight wearing thongs on stage and rubbing his ball sweat on other men. I just don’t get it. For people who love to hear other people glorify violence you sure do act like a bunch of female activists when shit like this actually happens. And for you fake ass fans that just started watching battle rap and swear you’ve been following since day one, ya say Math was forgiven once before for that Dose shit, but fail to realize Smack capitalized off of the entire situation. Shit it’s even on the URL YouTube page till this day. Smack even probably dapped him up for it.

    • Ripnox

      Truth. That video has circled for years, probably a couple mil views in total.

      • disqus_Fnxg7bHKtB

        u sound like a bisexual cokehead

    • barondebxl

      You the biggest homo on this page. What the fuck you want us to do? Support Math and be happy that he snuff Jones and that its gonna be good for the culture? Your faggot ass is very narrow minded. When Math snuffed Dose, battle rap was nothing compare to what it is now, it was some pure street shit. Now that shit is on another level with all eyes on it, we dont need no more controversy to make the culture grow bigger, the controversy actually fucks shit up. Niggaz like you need to shut the fuck up and think instead of yapping your dumb ass mouth before thinking.

      • FuckYaWeirdos

        I’m guessing you’re the leader to the female activist group out to get the the big bad bully Math Hoffa? You sound like a Daylight fan and an Aye Verb lover. You’re right when you say battle rap was not as popular when Math punched Dose, but again you fail to realize that Smack capitalized off that whole situation to in fact gain a bigger audience. I think you’re forgetting that URL is from the streets, to the streets and shit like this is bound to happen whether it be Math to do it or not. When the mainstream decides to cash in on battle rap do you think that it’s going to be strictly bars? No, this is entertainment as well as a business and there’s going to be a lot more Daylight faggotry, a lot more props and a lot more Jones and Dose “incidents”. Besides if Math probably didn’t punch jones you wouldn’t said he “marked out” for not doing nothing when he got in his face and yelled “wooo” anyway. If you want to see friendly competition go watch wack ass KOTD and if you want peace go watch Loaded Lux’s third round against Calicoe repeaditly and when you’re done doing that just kill yourself.

        • barondebxl

          Your whole comment is full of fuckery. You’re an idiot. Anybody that cosigns and is cool with what Math did is as retarded as you, its that simple. Smack ain’t cool with that 99% of the fans aren’t cool with that . But a bitch nigga like you think its cool. I see you’re an ignorant guy talking about wack ass kotd. I’m surprise you can even spell cause you sound like one of those dumb niggaz. Let’s see if Smack is gonna capitalize off of this. You stupid ass fucboy.

        • greenleaf

          you must be math hoffa himself because of the way you are defending him GTFOH !!!

        • Fuckyaweirdos

          And you must be serious jones. Eat a dick.

    • God Aweful

      No problem with violence. My thing is if he is a wild street nigga that will pop off then it needs to be consistent. Niggas have tested Math way worse then what he says Jones did, but he didn’t do shit. Then snuck the nigga and ran. That’s pussy shit that I can’t respect.

      • Swerveee

        So you’re telling me that every single person that ever tested or tried your patience you popped on? Come on son. You don’t know what went on behind the scenes. There’s always more than one angle to a situation.

        • God Aweful

          Math gave his side and there is no reason why he hit Jones and not these other battlers. Do I pop off over everything? No and I wouldn’t have done shit based on what Math said Jones did. If I feel slighted by a nigga I speak on it first and then decide my reaction based on the response. Math did that shit either because he planned that sucker shit or he is a live wire nigga and if he is a hot head Daylyt, Suge, Calicoe and other niggas should have gotten their jaws tapped too.

      • locks

        first of all dont take stories out context
        math ran because da police.. nypd was called …
        and smack told him get out asap before u get arrested so stop fabricating because you in that situation would of ran to
        and if running from police is pussy then every nigga on every block is considered pussy
        basically if u aint a street nigga dont talk about pussy or street shit

        • God Aweful

          He snuck the nigga on stage. They could have fought w/o police involvement outside of the event. Did Math make any attempt to give that man the fair one before or after he popped off? Why am I ask he wouldn’t even box with Daylyt? That is pussy shit.

    • PrinceJai

      @fuckyaweirdos that’s well put Gzzz lol… These fuckboys don’t understand you talk that gangster shit 100 mph a real nigga like Hoffa gone G check you lol… They like to hear it but actually seeing it is terrifying….

    • troy martin

      ignorant muthafucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jamal

      Bro first of all, all that shit that happened with Daylte happened in another league..this is URL…the leader in the rap culture…thats like if ron artest jumped in the crowd of a NBDL basketball game..yea its bad but when it happened in the NBA on live T.V at the highest and most publicized level it puts a dark shadow on the sport. At some point in life we had to rid violence out of something if we want it to succeed. The Math Dose shit was dope because it happened early on in the movement, that brought that street vibe to smack, that official vibe. Now its different, its on B.E.T, they are bringing in sponsors..these artist get to perform at the highest level and make people value their craft..its past the stage of allowing B.S..especially from a repeat offender.. Not only did Math bring a dark light on the culture..he also stole john john, daylite, J.C and Swave chance to perform on the biggest stage and advance their career..what about them? they dont have families to feed? they obviously didnt get the second half of their money for completing the battle. It just sucks…Math fought dose because he said his hat brom touched him…he hit jones for no reason…ive seen math talk to numerous people rounds…now he can hit people when they do it to him? you are never justified to hit someone if they dont hit you…so fuck outta here..Math needs to be banned the culture has advanced too far to take a step back now…

    • SLAME.O

      WORD THE FUCK UP!!!

    • boboblu

      So true

  • brennan

    damn i aint know he was gone suggest math to retire. i said it was wrong to hoffa on youtube page. but i see where my dude is coming from now. damn math set battle rap 10 yrs after it came so far thanks to companies like the urtlv..tv aka s.m.a.c.k thats even more fucked up after i here this vid, that was a selfish ass move hoffa.

  • barondebxl

    Great video.

  • Aubrey OVO

    lol. so it’s cool to hear 5 minutes of gun bars, but when someone gets hit, niggas get emotional? I guarantee you that Maths next battle will get twice as much views as his previous battles. KOTD should pick him up.

    • Joshua Jones

      u a clown ass dude

  • Joshua Jones

    case closed, when he addressed that math never apologized, i didnt even have to hear the rest, math disgraced url, black people as a group, and most importantly himself

  • Ryan Scott

    Naw he shouldn’t retire. shit just need more structure n politics. Like if niggas gotta take that year suspension for they misconduct and this battle rap shit helpin they ass to eat, uh nigga gon go in, put on uh show, n then sit his ass down somewhere. Nigga Said he did ten battles this year. None of them hoes was for free. Niggas just gotta be made to take hefty losses for they bullshit through paperwork or through them streets.

  • cozzo36

    Math hoffa a goon. Wat the hell u expect?? No matter wat excuse he rains out it is unexeptable to swing on a man on stage!! Why does everyone say they “BLACK OUT” when they smack someone in the face off of impulse coz they so ashamed and embarresed of wat they done they need to justify theyself!!! Url need a shrink on deck for these guys REAL TALK!!! Ban hoffa for at least 2 years and fine him 5 grand. Dont ban him for life as it will only gain notoriety for him and he wins either way, AGAIN!!!! URL IS THE NEXT UFC AND WILL SOON BE RECOGNISED AS A REAL SPORT, WE NEED REAL RULES OUTHERE!!!

  • notAfan

    retire for what ,get the fuck out of here , math do some free battles maybe 5 or 6 then tell these people to get over it !

  • ozzy

    homie talking that real talk. hes on real negga time

  • Swag Marciano

    If this nigga wasn’t there he shouldn’t have even wasted his time with this bull

  • Cityboymanagement

    How You Gon Tell That Man Dont Rap No More.. Whats That Doing For The Culture.. Math Should Take A Small Break Then Come Back… Url Needs To be More Organized Wit These Niggas If its 3 mins its 3mins no argument Stay at least 2 feet apart or suttin And make penalties to keep them in line (no one likes losing money). Math Was Wrong But Sht Happens…. R.i.p Serious I Hope He can bounce back from that..

  • http://RUOfficial.com/ Jamale J Jones

    I think this same blog should be addressed toward Daylyts clown ass, his antics, actions, and overall gimmicks are just as equal to and damaging as Math’s actions.

  • DRE

    I think this is actually GOOD for Battlerap personally. It might not be good for smack or anybody trying to book a venue but in order for this ‘culture’ to remain pure and honest, you can’t have guys all buddy buddy on or off cam!! Math comes for a place where ‘you gotta talk it how you walk it’ and that’s fine with me cuz I come from the place that’s why I fux with Math. I’m really speaking to a bigger point, because as Americans, we all need to toughen the fuck up! Everybody trying to tow the company line, everybody want to be liked, everybody tryin to be PC about EVERY FUCKING THING….and that’s not reality!! I hope Math grows and returns to ring again for the sake of battlerap cuz you can’t have lil pussy ass niggas (t-rex, k-shine, surf, tay rock, verb, con, ill will, etc.) talkin mad crazy threatening niggas with gun bar after gun bar!! That shit ain’t talent, THAT’S FLUFF!! And for some of these niggas it an opportunity to create an identity that they couldn’t do otherwise and that shit is wack my niggas!!

    If commercial rap niggas are soft and pussy because of the their music, than battlerap niggas should represent the raw and uncut culture as well. I fux wit S. Jones it’s sad to see him get caught up in this shit, but listening to Math POV, it doesn’t seem like that shit was personal, Math just snapped and truthfully we should all learn a lesson from this niggas, “Watch your mouth, and no matter how well you think you know somebody don’t get too comfortable with people.” I’m just advocate of people that should stay in their lane, NOT VIOLENCE!

  • Sd

    URL ..you need to hire this man!!

  • big_mars75

    The sad thing is battle rap can be big…national sponsorships, national pay per views, a real organized pay roll for the rappers, all that. But it’s just fucked up, cuz you give a black man something, and some fool gonna fuck it up. Math a good dude, but he obviously has issues that he has to work out, cuz he’s in a business where you have to have to tough skin. Snuffin dudes on stage is unacceptable, so fuck the retirement shit, can’t ruin the man’s life like that, but some kind of ban, 1 year or something. But someone with money, Diddy, Hov, 50, should put some money behind this shit, get up with Smack, Beasly, organize a true national battle league, cuz the potential is there…

  • halftime

    Just another uneducated emotional idiot… URL need to take notes from the NBA and NFL and place a life time ban on this nigga…. He’s beyond unstable at this point. He need to take his ass to the UFC if he really wanna get paid to get busy every day. This WWF Shit is played out at this point

  • ChiseEagle

    OK, I know this is just a man’s opinion on this video, but how can someone tell another person to quit his job and not feed his family. I watched the Math Hoffa video, and what transpired was unfortunate. As a person who was in the building that night, I was disappointed, but I don’t wish Math to lose his way of supporting himself. Maybe Math needs to take break from the crowds and work on his music, away from the drama and pressure of URL.

  • TROY MARTIN URL FAN

    AGREED!!!!

  • Dadadadadadadadamn

    Want to make things better Smack? Drop Young Ill vs Conceited along with Hitman vs Conceited, make a rookies vs vet card, and after that make a grudge match card outside of New York with Hoffa on it facing Rich Dolarz and Aye Verb vs Swayve.

  • lazerscope

    I didn’t buy that “apology” video from Math. So, basically he had a bad day, and that gave him cause to fuck up the event? And, he still ain’t even apologize LIKE A MAN to Serius anyways. C’mon dog, dude said one word while during ya round and you “blacked out”?
    Math is free to battlein other leagues, that’s cool, but Smack and them gonna look really stupid if they ever in life let him battle again on URL.

  • skizz23

    DAMN…THE BEST SHIT I HEARD REGARDING THIS WHOLE FIASCO SINCE IT WENT DOWN. JONCWRINES FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!

  • disqus_Fnxg7bHKtB

    Math aint doing that in BOSTON!!! smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaackkkkkk

  • disqus_Fnxg7bHKtB

    REAL NIGGAS EAT ASS ALL DAY

    • Greg

      I totally agree

  • AdamsFam71

    URL knows what they get in math….The movement thought it was cool for a math & dose part 2….No need to retire he just needs support and help from the hiphop community as a whole…Math knows his battle days maybe done….Never kick a man when he’s Down. I’m Not the biggest Math Fan But Url Needs to get their unorganized company together as well!!!!

  • Ju

    Fuk what everybody talkin bout math retire please u a disgrace my nigga any fan that thinks its koo is wak jones went to venue to spit wak o good bars get paid an bounce not fight if it was a fight he would have been ready that shyt ain’t koo he kept his composure all the way till the biggest event of the year and do some lol kid shyt I hope serious send someone to beat him to a pulp for that shyt. all the nigga did was say woo in his face once again daylyt sleeps on stage pours water on him everything that deserves a Beatin on stage but he koo then tho right fuk that. suge called him a hoe ass nigga after he brushed up on him fuk that. But he back in ny around his family he pullin shyt fuk him he a coward that hut ain’t gangsta I hope he retire get fined and serious should press charges and rap about it shyt clown hoffa

  • jaypeso320

    I think hoffa should retire but stay in as a commentator

  • SLAME.O

    just to keep it clear jon…having a man to man, means speaking man to man.

  • Marq Nash

    Retire Math! You so sorry about what happened but never apologize to Jones.

  • Caught Choosen

    This dude should not be the one speaking on behalf of URL battle rap fans. He does not come off as someone that lives that life. He doesn’t come off as someone that’s done any real dirt in the streets which is where the UR League fans derive from. This is street shit for street minded niggas if you want that other shit go to KOTD and you can get that safety belt rap. This is drug, gun, sex, and violence. We watch SMACK cause any given moment shit could pop off. Should he have hit the nigga NO. Did he YES. Can I not wait to see that shit? NO! And that’s why we fuck wit this league.

    • Jesus

      Another most nigga smh

    • Mr.Rude

      ^^ CALICOE DADDY ^^^^

  • Ray B

    This blog just ended Math battling career if promoters was listening…

  • Bresser10

    Idk who you are but this is the 2nd vlog i’ve seen and I dig it! keep em comin!

  • sampirlo ak

    Real Nigga talking Right there! Thumbs up please soport the movement

  • Eric Frazier

    So I guess SMACK will be going back to selling DVD’s again???????

  • Dan202

    If you think there was “Zero reason” for Math to punch Serius Jones I think you don’t know their history. It’s still wrong, but it wasn’t for NO REASON bruh.

  • Way

    Why is this such a big deal? Honestly. Sportsman punch each other in the face every other day; soccer, formula one, rugby, squash, baseball, icehockey. Yall acting like a black man aint allowed to lose his temper on some dumb shit.

  • Ahmad Willis

    ALL YA NIGGAS GOING IN ON MATH NEED TO CHILL THE FUCK OUT!!! WHAT MATH DID WAS WRONG, NO DOUBT BUT DAYLYT, YES, DAYLYT HAS DONE WAY MORE DAMAGE TO THE PROGRESS OF BATTLERAP & URL THAN ALL THE BULLSHIT ANTICS MATH & EVERYONE ELSE HAS DONE COMBINED!

    1. DAYLYT DOESN’T JUST BATTLE, HE PULLS BULLSHIT ANTICS, NOTHING RELEVANT TO THE BATTLE, JUST ANTICS THAT SHOWS HOW DESPERATE HE IS TO GET VIEWS AT ANY COST

    2. HE’S UNBELIEVABLY DISRESPECTFUL. THIS NIGGA DOES FAGGOT SHIT THAT ALOTTA YA FUCKBOYS GIVE HIM PROPS & CALL HIM GANGSTA FOR DOING BUT YA FAIL TO REMEMBER HE AINT DO SHIT IN DETROIT AGAINST CALICO & HE ONLY TRIED MATH CUZ HE WAS IN HIS BACKYARD WITH A DOZENS OF HIS CREW BUT HE’S NEVER DONE ANYTHING WORTHY OF BEING CALLED A REAL NIGGA OR TOUGH.

    3. SPEAKING OF WANNABE GANGSTA, HE RAN UP ON SMACK (WHO’S 5’5) WITH 3-5 (MAYBE MORE) OF HIS NIGGAS YELLING & SCREAMING IN THE STREETS, KNOWING DAMN WELL COUNTLESS PEOPLE ARE RECORDING & WILL BE UPLOADING THAT SHIT. WHAT KINDA WEAK SHIT IS THAT?

    4. MATH PUNCHED SERIOUS JONES WHICH WAS WRONG BUT DAYLYT SHITTED ON THE ENTIRED URL, CONFRONTED ONE OF THE FOUNDERS ON SOME SUCKER SHIT THEN ADDED FUEL TO THE FIRE BY ATTACKING THE WHOLE URL LEAGUE WHILE GIVING PROPS TO OTHER LEAGUES.

    SELF-HATED MENTALITY IS A VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN THE URBAN COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AMONGST BLACKS. WE’RE QUICK TO SHIT ON OUR OWN PEOPLE & ACT LIKE EVERYTHING THEY DO IS MALICIOUS & SCANDALOUS BUT WHEN OTHERS DO US DIRTY ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE SELF-CONTROL, UNDERSTANDING, & PATIENCE.

    DAYLYT IS A FUCKING PARASITE & DISGUSTS ME! HE’S THE REASON WHY THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS LOOKED AT AS A FUCKING JOKE! THE SAME TYPE OF BROTHER THAT WOULD GET CRAZY & WILD ON HIS FELLOW BROTHER TO REP A HOOD HE DOESN’T OWN, A GANG THAT DOESN’T DO SHIT FOR HIS PEOPLE BUT WILL RUN LIKE HELL WHEN HE HEARS THE SIRENS.

    I’M PISSED OFF AT WHAT MATH DID BUT LET’S BE SERIOUS, PLENTY OF BATTLES EITHER ENDED IN FIGHTS OR CAME NEAR IT & IT’S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO DO DAMAGE CONTROL FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS TRULY A LACK OF SELF-CONTROL BUT THE SHIT THAT DAYLYT DID WASN’T A LACK OF SELF-CONTROL, WASN’T AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING HE’S ASHAMED OF, IT WAS CALCULATED & DISGUSTING!

    DAYLYT WILL NEED TO RUN AROUND WITH DOZENS OF NIGGAS IF HE THINKS HE’S INVINCIBLE WITH THAT PUNK ASS CRAZY WEIRDO TOUGH GUY ACT!

    DAYLYT FUCKED UP THAT NIGHT MORE THAT MATH DID IN MY OPINION & HIS VIDEO WENT ON DJVLAD WHICH GETS TONS OF TRAFFIC, BAN THAT FUCKING WEIRDO ASS NIGGA!!

  • DonMagikJuan

    I think people need to calm down. It was just a punch. He wasn’t beat down, jumped or shot. A bunch of freeloaders blowin shit outta proportion. I’m not saying I condone violence, but it is nice to see somebody living the bars they spit. I was getting tired of the fantasy fake gangsta acts. Somebody who probably has no talent wants suggest something so extreme. 90% of the people forming these opinions watch these battles for free and don’t really support the culture and got the nerve to have an opinion. Fake ass niggaz CALM DOWN.

  • Dennis Stith

    yo everyone acting like its math fault them other two battles didnt happen when truth is thanks to there time and them running late they werent gonna happen anyway the club closed at 1 and when the whole math jones thing happened it was almost 1 anyway so he only messed up his battle not no one else thats just a cop out and now hes the scapegoat cmon even other people and other battlerappers have since said those last two battles werent going to happen its the league fault for the lateness not condoning his actions and im a hoffa fan but quit blaming math for those last 2 battles for not happening

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