KOTD vs URL

Jimmy “The Blueprint” Williams of Warroomsports.com talks about fans comparing KOTD to URL

@jwtheblueprint @warroomsports

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  • TipOfTheIceberg

    We do hope URL gets their flaws worked out. Just because some of us point out the things that URL needs to fix (because there are many) doesn’t mean we don’t enjoy the culture as much as you do. No one roots for the death of URL….we want them to flourish and us talking about the shit they doing wrong will ultimately be something that helps them correct it. Don’t be so sensitive homie.

  • Ltrain

    TRU I AGREE

  • Electrikfunk

    why you proud of calling yourself a law school dropout? and how is the url a new company? been around for damn 15 years or so now wtf…I agree with not putting one against the other tho. we need to unite and make this shit grow.

    • TipOfTheIceberg

      its a play off kanye west album dude never went to law school man its just a catchy ‘aka’ name. and url has not been around for 15 damn years. smack and battlerap has been around for that long but smack, Beasley and norbes didn’t create the company called url until 2009. before that he people were just uploading street battles to youtube.

      • jwtheblueprint

        I actually did drop out of Law School though.. LMAO But you are right it is a play off the Kanye nickname… And that is the same point I just made. The URL is 3 years old as a company..

        • Electrikfunk

          i dont listen to anything kanye does so I honestly wouldnt know the play on words…you made a fortune thats whats up but I wouldnt promote dropping out of school my dude….and to iceberg Smack been sellin DVD’s on jamaica ave ova here since the late 90’s..how is that NOT a business? and he had tha URL name on the dvd’s too!!! That shyt was happenin way be4 youtube

        • jwtheblueprint

          Having a brand name and having a business are two different things.. The URL wasn’t an incorporated business when he was selling DVDs. And that was also a completely different business model. The URL as it exist today has only been around as a business for 3 years. This is a complete paradigm shift from the DVD days in terms of expenses as well as revenue streams. And also I’m not promoting dropping out of school. I am very big on education. I come from the inner city in Philadelphia and it is education that allowed me to make it where I am. Before dropping out of Law School I obtained 3 College degrees including a Masters in Real Estate.. I’m not saying this to brag but to say I don’t just talk about it I actually do work in the community to promote education. And with all that being said I am still a battle rap fanatic.. The Law School Drop Out was just a nickname that some people have called me which was a play on the Kanye album and it was all in jest.

        • Electrikfunk

          I dont think anyone reading this would take it as you bragging. Shit I hope you put all that work in. We need more people like you out there then. I dont think smack thought this game would get as big as it is getting but hes always been trying to make money off this. I strongly believe that is all he is after now. He loves hearing his own voice. He brags how he wont let this get watered down like main stream hiphop and in the next sentence he is dropping names left and right. Honestly I dont even know what the arguement is here.This has always been a business based off battle rapping. Its just a much bigger and trying to be a professional business now. But my #1 concern is smack. He needs to step back and let Beasley do all the talking

        • Electrikfunk

          You see how we talkin right now man. This is how shyt should be done…Respect JW

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          I think he in it for the money as well. I think lux in it for the money. I think most people want to make the most amount of money they can at their job. jay z sittin around thinkin up ways to make MORE money. I don’t think its necessarily a bad thing to wanna make a way to take care of your family….of your grand kids. I don’t knock that at all. when 50 said get rick or die tryin we all cosigned that shit.

        • Electrikfunk

          ehhhh I dont know I feel different about smack for some reason. I really feel like he is trying to lowball tha culture for himself…he just gives me that funny feelin like you cant trust that dude and with all the shyt thats been comin out from clips cortez dna etc etc He seem like he tryin to get over on people…not tryin to work with every1 but using every1

        • Electrikfunk

          hes been thowin up them devilhorns and got some seeing eye shyt in the backgroud of some of his vlogs..boy prolly sold his soul

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          yo…what came out from dna? can u post the link to the blog for me? I searched for new dna blogs but couldn’t find anything. and remember…smack got partners. norbes, Beasley and chico all have a lot to do with business so if smack shady then they all have to be shady and I don’t think Beasley shady lol.

        • Electrikfunk

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxtcSDfZ_4U

          he said he had some issues with them. he kept alot of the info in but he said some shyt thats obvious he got issues with them too

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          JW just eloquently broke down the difference between the ‘business’ smack had back then and the business he has now. BUT…im with you…a business is a business. so we can cut out the semantics of the whole thing and just all agree that dude has been getting paid off battlerap since the 90’s lol.
          lets just agree that for only 3 years has smack been doing it THIS way where he has to get building permits and promote events and choose venues and shit like that. I bet doing all this shit is a lot more complicated than selling dvds on the street haha.

        • jwtheblueprint

          Thanks bro. I appreciate that and you are right we need more people trying to promote positive ideas and thoughts. I’m a conscious brother but I love to have fun and that nickname was all in jest. In terms of the business of battle rap I agree with you that its bigger than not only Smack but most people thought it would be. Now with the growing pains that are happening in the company it is time to make some changes and make this thing a long term profitable business.. That could require bringing in outside help or fine tuning their system.. I’m on the outside so it’s all speculation.. I just hope they work it out because I am a fan and I want to see them win.

      • Guest

        so you telling me smack selling dvds on jamaica ave ova here aint a fucking business? get the fuck outta here that dude always had the URL namebrand on that shyt too!

    • jwtheblueprint

      Yes I’m proud of calling myself a law school dropout because I made a fortune in real estate and have attorneys that work for me… Thanks for watching though… And SMACk has been around for 15 years or so but the URL as a business has been around for 3 years. Just go look at the 1st video ever uploaded to the channel. And I agree we need to unite.. Peace

  • Agree

    Smack put on for battle rap and all i hear is negativity about the URL. Battle rap “stans” fickle they always trying to find something to bitch and complain about. KOTD is not on the level of URL, they don’t pay the same, who the hell care about Lo Pesci and Cheddar Cheese, and they have a different feel from URL? They in different lanes, if all these niggas from URL went there they would have the same problems. I used to watch Murda Mook, Jae Millz, Lux, and a lot of these other cats when they was outside or in a store with no frills. If you like battle rap you will continue to watch and support it, if you want to complain stop watching it or watch another league. Now Smack does need to step up his business acumen, but to be honest this wasn’t designed to be a business it evolved into a business. As it grows it will get better, and blame Hoffa for that bull shit this weekend.

    • TipOfTheIceberg

      I care about Lo pesci and cheddar cheese because they put on good battles. dna and charron just put on perhaps the battle of the year. u think I care about hitman holla or surf more because they have bigger names? what….am I trying to date them? Im not a battle rap groupie so I don’t care who has the bigger name, I care about whos having great battles. and after nome3 url rappers can not say they top dogs are bringing their a game.

      • Agree

        A) First off it was directed to those complaining about URl and comparing it to KOTD, and bitching about it. B) Secondly, Lo Pesci doesn’t put on that great of a show, he chokes in like 80% ofhis battles, and got disrespected as a man by Daylgyht, C) I don’t care about names, but comparatively URL is at the forefront of pushing this culture forward, so yeah most people don’t care about KOTD. When KOTD has a bad battle or subpar battle it isn’t really addressed. Hell they had a terrible run for a minute, hell Uno Lavoz was on every week putting out weak shit. D) I also said they are in different lanes as well, KOTD isn’t promoting the same content as URL, they will never have a full roster of URL rappers because their operate in two different lanes. Like you have different types of rap music. E) Lastly, only reason people screaming KOTD is because they upset with smack. These companies all have highs and lows and people just try to find a way to always compare them, when it fact they aren’t comparable. and F) It’s not about names, I never said that I was putting out the fact that fans want to see certain battles go down, and despite battles on KOTD folks clamor for URl battles. I don’t recall people screaming I can’t wait for KOTD to drop that Arcane v Pat Stay (dope battle thou). I agree with you that URL rappers need to get their bars up, but the problem will slide over to KOTD if URL fails because niggas about the bread, and not the art now. KOTD ain’t paying 8k for a battle rapper like that, and when they start which the problems start arising just like URL.

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          A)That original post I responded to was you bitching yourself. Ive never understood that internet phenomenon. People will bitch about people bitching, thus doing the exact thing they are speaking out against lol. But if we are all the type of people who like to post about shit online I suppose that is inevitable. If no one bitches, what would we talk about?
          As for the rest of your alphabet, those ‘points’ are irrelevant to me. My original post was that there are those of us who like the kotd rappers because they have good battles…about as good as most of the URL battles these days anyway. As far as pat stay vs arcane I never heard anyone say they were waiting for it to drop either,…but that’s because I don’t talk about battle rap to a bunch of niggas online or in real life so I never heard anyone say they waiting for ANY battle to drop personally. You seem to be determined to make it seem like kotd isn’t as popular as url or that their rappers or battles aren’t as in demand as url rappers or battlers are. Even if that is true. its irrelevant to me. we both agree URL rappers need to get their bars up and that’s all I care about because I want to watch great battles. And yes u are right….pat vs arcane was a dope as battle. hopefully we can say that bout these sm3 battles when they drop.

        • Agree

          Lol.. Im bitching by telling people to stop comparing two different leagues. You screaming you don’t talk battle rap online to niggas, but yet you on every post on the page chiming in. Yeah I guess you come to a battle rap site post on every comment, but that’s not considered talking about battle rap. Oh okay my fault. Secondly, they serve different demographics for the most part, you have fans of battle rap in whole, and fans of certain genres. It’s a matter or preference when you boil it down to what you might want to hear, thus you shouldn’t have a problem with what I said if it doesn’t pertain to you. KOTD and other leagues have just as many bad battles as URL so your going to have bad battles it’s inevitable. Lastly,from what most people are saying the battles that took place were good battles and maybe some classics.

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          *Smack put on for battle rap and all i hear is negativity about the URL. Battle rap “stans” fickle they always trying to find something to bitch and complain about. KOTD is not on the level of URL, they don’t pay the same, who the hell care about Lo Pesci and Cheddar Cheese*
          come on fam look at how that shit is worded. That’s bitching. now…Im don’t mind you doin it, it gives us something to talk about. 50-60% of the posts on a site like this is going to be bitching. I was bitching a couple days ago about niggas bitching that url wasn’t gon just give lux 40k plus a % of the ppv. so its all good fam I aint tryin to come at ya neck or anything like that.
          and yes I heard all the battles that actually went on were some CLASSICS. im hopin that shit translate on film but from what im hearin all 5 of them battles went hard. cant wait for shit to drop.

        • Agreed

          Agree with that. Especially that Tay rock and Ill WIll, folks be sleeping of Rock

        • Agree

          I read that wrong actually it ain’t all that serious, we both want to see good battles, and let’s hope URL can rebound from the bullshit and bring that magic back. Let’s hope KOTD continues to put out some more great battles, and the rest of them leagues out there.

        • TipOfTheIceberg

          im with u on that fam.

  • NWTS

    Nigga looks like Queenz flip fused with Smack.

    • jwtheblueprint

      LMAO!!!!!! That’s my Philly beard fam….

  • Opinionated Factz

    If you want to compare the leagues then yes KOTD is ran better and definitely has a better turnaround time with their battle release dates. That bullshit that happen on SM3 could’ve probably been avoided (excluding that Math situation). To cancel the remaining battles was stupid to be honest and not a good business move at all. Smack, Beasley, Norbes, etc may now need to insert battle lines where each competitor cannot cross. I know it sounds corny but proper measures need to be enforced to ensure that this doesn’t occur again. Its bad enough the event was horribly promoted (late with the matchup announcements as well). If you’re going to put on a card with no fan favorite matchups then you have to do something different in building interests. I get the concept of Bars over Names but you have make it so that fans are eager to see it. KOTD consistently puts on good cards and there events always finish. The flow of the event is always good and that is another issue that is wrong with URL. Too much filler for URL events – make each battle 1 hour with 20min in between for people to get their drinks, bathroom breaks etc. You can do whatever you want within those 20 minutes of fill but be sure to get back to your battles after those 20 minutes.

    • jwtheblueprint

      Bring back the Pool Tables like Fight Klub…

    • mitchbuchanan

      security shut down the event. secondly although the biggest names were not on the card im hearing all the battles that went on were very good battles. i want to see big names as much as the next person but if im seeing 5 solid battles i aint complaining. i like both leagues but i have to mention you seriously sound like a KOTD STAN

    • Opinionated Factz

      Not a Stan at all of any league but definitely a supporter of the Battle Rap Culture. I watch more URL than anything to be honest. Security didn’t shut down the event either, Jones/Hoffa was going to be the last battle of the night regardless do to the permit granted. Jones/Hoffa was scheduled for 5pm but didn’t start until after midnight. That’s bad for business! As far as the battles go yea I heard the ones that went on were good (Jaz/Hustle being the highlight) but that gets overshadowed by the event not being ran smoothly.

  • TROY MARTIN URLFAN

    HOLYSHIT YOU LOOK LIKE THE LION FROM THE WIZ..LOL..GOOD VID THO

    • WildOut

      lmao !!!!!!

  • WildOut

    This Nigga look Like Smack’s Long Lost Uncle !!! lmao !!!!

    • jwtheblueprint

      LMAO

  • WildOut

    I Think This Blog Was On Point Tho

    • jwtheblueprint

      Salute!

  • mitchbuchanan

    nice blog

    • jwtheblueprint

      Thanks for watching….

  • Dat Nicca

    Everyone from the URL community should watch this video from Eurgh from Don’t Flop. He raises great points, brings up great conversation, and provides an insightful opinion on this Math/Serius fiasco. I hope URL posts the video. Also, nice to see the homey supporting URL.

  • hakkeem francois

    listen bra we do care about great battles and competitive spirit…. however there has to be a degree of professionalism and accountablitity and that is what clipse was speaking on……. at the end of the day is bad for the culture when the business is bullshit…. we as a predominantly black league must do better

    • TipOfTheIceberg

      you only know clips side of the story on that. we cant say the business is shady…well I cant say the business is shady if im hearing that from one side and once source on that one side. in the same video clips claimed business was bad he also admitted to ASSUMING that he was going to get extra money just because someone WITH money PUT UP money to sponsor the NOME3 event. You really expect me to believe that clips just all on his own went and talked to his boy who has money and told that guy he should sponsor a battle event? Smack already has nome 1 and 2 but clips claims to be the mastermind behind nome3? He was cool with the dude who paid him his 5 stacks but he thought he should have gotten another sum of money for….for putting the guy and smack in contact? u cant believe everything someone says on the internet.

    • riiiight

      DNA is that you?

  • William Charles McNeill

    It’s not a URL vs KOTD thing, it’s “Look at how much more professionally KOTD seems to be run as opposed to URL” it seems like after every event we have someone from URL posting a blog on how “The venue this and the venue that.” and battles don’t drop forever and a day. While KOTD drops content and while they aren’t perfect, they give the customer more and in a timely manner. People say KOTD > URL out of frustration for the most part. And URL does nothing to ease the frustration.

    • TipOfTheIceberg

      couple things they did to ease the frustration:
      1) the fans said the top dudes was slackin off and we wanted to see more more tier dudes get shots on the big stage and he did that. his whole ‘bars over names’ campaign came about because of the fans complaining.
      2) smack no longer takes long to put out a battle unless he puts it in the vault for audio or visual reasons. the first nome battle dropped 14 days after it happened. ayeverb/ars dropped 9 days after it happened. he no longer holds battles for weeks on end.
      as far as the long ass lines yea that shit is wack and I suppect URL will get better at this. no reason for shit like, that to happen.

      • William Charles McNeill

        And to be fair your right. Seems like URL is starting to get things right. However the problems they have addressed have been so recent you can’t blame the frustration. Bit everything you said is truth.

  • Joshua Jones

    URL….. is…….. MARK’D OUT! clips know it, ars know it, daylyt proved it… M A R K D O U T

    • Joshua Jones

      oh yea, Cortez proved it in his blog too, MARK’D OUT!

    • mitchbuchanan

      dont be suprised of most of those guys come back

      • Joshua Jones

        smack would have to do a live conference, with all the “top tier” ppl and apologize for all the past issues, and and to the city of NY, and to ALL the fans including myself who fly out from all over the world to see these events, that shit is more stressful than ppl think, and its hella disappointing, i be joking from time to time, but that sm3 shit really got me like fuck the url

  • Greggylasek

    Kotds ran much more professionally and battles come out on a strict schedule but they don’t have the greats like lux hollow surf ill will b magic. They should just work together and take the positive points from each and diverge from there

  • ms marjane

    I think the URL crew raised the bar in battle rap in a way that kotd or any other league could not. It’s no disrespect to them – URL just has the specific style and format that raised *everybody* up, including kotd. What I don’t see in the URL camp is an acknowledgement that it was URL and every single one of it’s main stay battlers that really put the league where it is. They really can’t exist without eachother. I’m sure many of them can battle elsewhere, but it won’t ever be the same. To me, the issue isn’t about kotd vs url, it’s about URL rappers vs URL – that’s what needs to stop. I think they can work it out, but it’s a growing period for a lot of these cats.

  • Dr. Drain

    URL wont ever die. They got true fans like me who are always gonna support the movement. All of you others are DISLOYAL BITCHMADE FOOLS! (Denzel voice).

  • em1o1bb

    If I hear another nigga say pause ima sneak the shit out of them, ima real nigga I dont need to say pause u bitch ass niggas

    • KingBKings

      Pause

  • Quill

    Those white boys at KOTD cant fuck with URL. That title match(Pat Stay vs Arcane) was awful. The crowed goes beserk at every fucking corny joke. The level of battle rap at URL is miles higher than KOTD.

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